i mean, when we look at this situation, and david brooks said it best, that the deal the democrats put on the table is essentially a no-brainer, right? they want a 3 to 1 ratio of tax revenue to spending cuts. that's three times as much spending cuts as tax revenue. and these folks walked away from the deal. i think we need to reorder our understanding of the stimulus package. the stimulus came into place to plug holes that were left in our gaping economy as a result of the real estate implosion. and if you look at the short term versus the long term effects of this, if we did not repair our economy in the ways in which democrats are proposing, what's going to happen, you're going to see after school care, other social services programs diminished. they want to eradicate the child care credit. the hours of 3:00 and 6:00 are the most vital hours for kids in terms of teenage pregnancy and other issues. >> the president continues to put out the olive branchs and have an aim yabl tone about it. can we expect anything from this meeting that's going to take place tomorrow? will there be any